to those who espouse liberal values

please breed
(if you haven’t already)

  1. jackie said:

    that was a very interesting article. it makes me think of how during the campaign, i was constantly finding myself defined and described as conservative, religious, suburban, etc. because I am white, married, with two kids, and a woman who is responsible for the primary care of her children. It’s a very strange feeling to see that people feel that certain of my choices preclude or negate other choices I’ve made, you know?

  2. bill said:

    Commenting on yours and Pete’s remarks, I immediately think of Mormonism. There may be sects or cults or whatever that have an expressed agenda, but what do you do when multiplying is part of the religious doctrine, as is the case with the LDS. I have reasons to dislike Mormonism, and I don’t think mass production families are healthy for all, but I guess I’m reluctant to dictate how people interpret their religion. Plus, paranoia is hard for me to sustain. Your birth control comments seems pretty spot-on, but the left seems like it’s always been uncomfortable with religion. And I don’t know that we need to reinvent the left to embrace more aspects of the right – again had ultra-lefty Dean won the ticket, we would have had an election between two clear sides rather than the perception of Bush going hard right and Kerry battling for the middle. Give the people more dramatically varying choices and they’ll fall into the right slot, right? Have to read your article still, but thought this was worth sharing.

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  4. sarah said:

    my take on this matter stems more from anecdotal evidance and the face of young families i see presented by the media.

    for instance as jackie pointed out she is a married, white, mother and is the primary caretaker for her children. as she is projected by the media – she should be a scared republican mom, voting for bush because she believes that he can protect her children.

    even me, as a white married woman as projected by the media should be leaning republican.

    but back to the issue of breeding. of my groups of liberal friends (and most of them are) only one couple and one individual has children. all three of those children were unplanned.of the people my age that i know who are married or living with a partner, none of those who don’t already have kids are planning to have them for certain. this does not mean that they won’t, it does mean that children are not a priority at the moment.

    i think that for those who are closely tied to a christian form of religion (mormon, catholic, evangelical, etc.) and are married, the addition of children is the next logical step. it can easily become a point of focus. it’s not like i’ve done research into this, but simply looking for patterns, i know that my best friend’s cousin is a year or two older than me and has 7 children – she’s catholic. another foaf is younger than myself, has one and has another on the way and is planning for more. when we were planning our wedding i got hooked on several bride-to-be message boards just for the freak-show factor. there seemed to be a trend between the women who participated on the religious areas of the mb (almost all christian) often participated in the baby areas of the board – planning and anticipating when they could and would have their kids not long after the wedding.

    again, i’ve done no formal research, and the theory of natalists aside, i think that a trend towards christian couples planning kids as a primary aspect of their lives, isn’t a far stretch. i’m not talking at all about how people interpret their religion – but whether or not these people have more children in number than liberal, possibly non-christian counterparts who are not immediently planning for kids.

  5. Anonymous said:

    I’m agreeing – but isn’t this the traditional argument that some people become more conservative as they grow older and shift to a more ‘protective’ role, be it in the suburbs or in political isloationism or the media’s melding of both?

    maybe the problem isn’t only the protrayal of complexity, but that there is no broad medium in which to do it. hence the earlier remark about having two parties play to the middle. it shuns complexity and assumes that the more prevalent stereotype must be true.

  6. Anonymous said:

    that was bill up there, by the way.

  7. Winnie said:

    funny, a few days after seeing the above article on your blog, someone else blogged this one

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